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Gerbubble Bug |
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The Sage rod company is adding a Panfish rod to their Smallmouth and Largemouth Rods. These three rods are 7'11" to stay under the Bass Masters length
limit for Tournaments. I've wiggled a couple at dealers but have not used one. Anyone have any info on these rods.
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Flytackle |
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A 400 dollar seven weight designed for bluegills and is allowed in tournaments.
And its got a fighting butt in case you really need to cross that 'gills eyes. Wow. They don't get it at all. Alec
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Cornmuse |
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It's not what you think. To understand the Sage series one really needs to cast actual fishing flies on the water with one. Unfortunately that is almost
impossible to do until you've bought the thing. That said, here's a review of actual fishing time with the rods.
Joe C. "Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, drink the
drink, taste the fruit,
- Henry David Thoreau
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Wee Hooker |
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The biggest problem with the Sage panfish rod is that you'd have to admit that you spent $400 on a rod to cast 30' to the most joyfully simple fish on
the planet. I'd be pretty embaressed. I'm not sure I could cast with a paper bag over my head like that!
I'm with Alec on this one. Leave it to sage to tell me that my 7'9" 2 wt is now obsolete for bluegilling ! |
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Cornmuse |
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Not to defend Sage, but it should be pointed out that the names of the rods are metaphorical and not necessarily indicative of the species for which the rod is
designed. I consider the choice of naming convention to be an unfortunate marketing error on Sage's part. The Smallmouth isn't a rod designed
particularly for smallmouth bass. It's "smaller" than the Largemouth. The LM is actually designed primarily for mangrove fishing for baby tarpon
and snook, as well as the kind of largemouth that exist only in parts of Texas, Florida and California. The SM that I own and reviewed is perfect for smaller
pike and most every largemouth situation north of the Mason Dixon line. I've not fished it, but by extension the Bluegill is appropriate for air
resistant larger flies for most river and creek smallmouth fishing, light bass/panfish crossover, etc..
Its unfortunate that I hear similar comments on a lot of boards from folk who have an opinion about these rods without having any actual experience with them. I think Sage deserves a bit of thanks for having broken the mold and recognized the other half of fishing - sure beats yet another "brook trout" 7 foot 3 weight or "brown trout" 9 foot 5 weight! This is not a product category that we, as the more enthusiastic core of the fly fishing community and thus "opinion influencers", should dismiss cavalierly. This is the first indication of an industry paradigm shift and should be encouraged. Joe C. "Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, drink the
drink, taste the fruit,
- Henry David Thoreau
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Gerbubble Bug |
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Joe:
I agree completely. The rod costs what it costs, if you can afford it fine. If not then do the best you can - that's why we have Hummers and Scions(sp?). I use very high end rods for Bluegill, for I feel they are far more noble than the concrete fish that have been in the water you're fishing for hours to days. Hail Mr Pumkinseed! Tom |
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waynebh.fiberglassflyro... |
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Hi Tom;
I resemble that remark, I own a Scion(just kidding!). I could afford a Hummer but why? It's just an over priced gas hog, not really many uses for it. That said, My panfish rod is a Cortland Pro Crest 5wt that I paid $40.00 for. I think the Sage rods are nice rods but I can't justify spending that much on a rod/line combo when a less expensive and more enjoyable outfit is available for much less. That and I can't understand why Sage calls their rods Bluegill, smallmouth, and largemouth rods. As Joe C. said, major marketing error. Those that know better if interested will buy the correct rod for the correct use. But I can't help but think others may be disappointed and be lost as customers for Sage in the future. Wayne |
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Gerbubble Bug |
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Wayne:
You said they key phrase "enjoyable outfit". I can't afford a Hummer because I spend so much money on fishing tackle. I will not be getting the Panfish Outfit; however, the Smallmouth Outfit is another subject all together. Tom |
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flyflingerandy1 |
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The biggest marketing error here is them operating under the assumption that these rods can actually be used in B.A.S.S. tourneys.
Here is an email from Charles Harbin. -----Original Message----- From: member of another board Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:06 AM To: Customer Service Subject: rules Are fly rods under 8 feet long allowed in B.A.S.S. tournaments? Thanks. From: Harbin, Charles B. (Charles.B. Harbin@bassmaster.com) Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:38 PM To: aforementioned member Subject: RE: rules Fly rods are not allowed in BASS tournaments. Our rules state, under Tackle and Equipment "Only one casting, spin casting or spinning rod (8 foot maximum length from butt of handle to rod tip) and reel may be used at any one time." Thanks, Chuck Harbin SR. TOURNAMENT MANAGER BASS/ESPN OUTDOORS 407-566-2488 - OFF 407-557-0129 - CELL Now, tell me who did the crappy legwork. Sage mentions these rods fit under the tournament regulations, all except the fact that they are fly rods. Hmm... |
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B52 bugger |
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This is the most rediculous thing I have ever seen. I'm sorry but I have been fishing since 1953. Fished everything glass, bamboo, graphite, and boron. I
know people have to make money, have gimicks and stuff with ridiculous price tags that the average family can't afford. For the serious people of bass pond
remember fishing with an 8 ft glass rod for trout and pan fish or maybe even a 6 1/2ft rod and having a ton of fun? A 9 ft graphite or 8 1/2 ft rod for bass,
even salt water fish. - remember it was uncomplicated. The lines were simple and did the job Cortland 333 then graduated to 444. Or Air Cel or Wet Cel. You
tied your own flies and they all caught fish if you added water. Now we have rods with names on them largemouth, smallmouth and pan fish. Gee my bass bugging
rods took largemouth, smallmouth bass, white perch, pan fish in South Watuppa - life was simple with no gimicks. Now we have fly reels with scales of tarpon,
trout, salmon etc. Give me the old Pflueger Medalist 1492 -1498 or even Perrine Automatic. Folks! get serious look for yard sales, flea markets and you will
land - probably the best fly rod or reel or both, in your life. Your assignment forget about the falling economy, with the admin giving up our security, - go
fishing more and really, really enjoy life. Amen
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spinzo |
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I'm gonna chime in here, never having touched one of these rods, but with a general observation. I fish a bunch of different rods, even if I tend toward
using one or two specific rods in my arsenal (fresh and salt). I am very happy that I've been able to find very good and enjoyable fly rods within my price
range, and even if I doubt whether I'd move up to a more expensive class of rod if I could afford it, I'm not going to bust on a manufacturer for
making a rod that I consider to be too expensive. Some anglers may have deep enough pockets to provide them with a broader range of options when it comes to
their choice of gear. That's not me, but God bless 'em if they can afford it. I've fished with guys who could afford whatever they wanted and have
had a blast, and I've shared time on the water with folks who were poorer than me and regret the experience.
What's important to me isn't the price tag on the tool, but the heart of the person who weilds it. Sage won't earn a dime of my money on this rod simply because I can't justify the cost, but I wish them success. They are a good brand that gives back to the sport and to the conservation of our fisheries. Mike |
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